I'll start by saying Tera is RNG while people are gonna come in and bash this by saying lower chance means it won't ever masterwork the difference between master enigmatic scroll's and common scrolls are only a 2.5% difference. Common enigmatic scrolls can be bought from the vendor these are only a 0.5% chance of masterworking an item but you are getting more chances to masterwork then using one master enigmatic scroll. Think about it like this it costs about 520 gold for a master enigmatic scroll that is one attempt at 3% chance of success for 500 gold you are getting 100 attempts at 0.5% chance. If it ends up costing you 800 or more common scrolls it's still more chances then if you got the same amount in master enigmatic scrolls.
We don't really know how Tera's RNG system works but one thing I know for sure it's a pretty dumb system which even with master enigmatic scrolls you can fail over 100 times and RNG from person to person seems to differ a lot but we most likely will never find out the exact RNG formula usually games use a time based system using UID (user identification) serial over attempting to put a max limit on scrolls this means for most of us even the unlucky ones you have a better chance burning massive amounts of common scrolls over a period of time to masterwork items over using a possibly massive amount of enigmatic scrolls.
The one reason I believe that the system used is most likely based on time was I've had two of my own guild members masterwork at the same time while using common scrolls but the difference in the scrolls they used was much different one used 40 scrolls the other used 450. My normal luck usually seems to be later at night and that's always when I end up master-working items. Not to mention all of my previous experience in the game development industry and older games with trying to figure out the RNG socketing systems or enchanting / upgrading where usually time based systems its the seemingly most random way for a game to make a system. That people can't just easily master because we have no idea the exact formula and because of the use of UID it differs for each person. Even if one person could figure out what's lucky for themselves everyone else will differ time wise because each person would be built with a separate lucky time so to speak.
So anyhow most people might complain that its time consuming to spam 300 to 1000+ common enigmatic scrolls since it would require 3000 clicks to do 1000 scrolls but if you don't feel like putting time into clicking you could do what i do and use a macro to do it. A macro allows you to record a certain click action and then repeat it multiple times. Even someone without skills can set up a macro for doing this. I was working on the same thing last night with a friends priest to masterwork her conjunct boots. And you can leave it running during the day or night while your away from keyboard. You can't get in trouble or anything for using a program like this all your doing is automating your common spamming. If you have a macro program you normally use go ahead and use that one but if your new to this macro thing you might want to try Axife Mouse Recorder they have a demo version which works fine I didn't notice limitations with it and its really easy for someone who has not set up a macro before all you do is hit record do the process of master-working with a common scroll then stop it and put in the number of times you want the program to repeat it which will depend on the number of scrolls used and it will keep doing it till all the scrolls are used up.
One thing to consider in the end is when K-Tera went free to play common enigmatic scrolls where removed from the vendor to force people to spend more money on enigmatic scrolls from random boxes and stop the use of master-working using common scrolls. If common scrolls had such a low chance that it was impossible to actually masterwork an item they wouldn't have removed it from K-Tera the fact we are lucky enough to still have them can save us a lot of money because you can masterwork using common scrolls then save the master enigmatic scrolls for the re-rolling.
If you've had success masterworking using common enigmatic scrolls feel free to comment about it in the section below. And if you just feel like raging about how you think this is stupid don't comment and just don't use common enigmatic scrolls. This is just meant for people that don't feel like wasting money on a only slightly higher chance. Some of the people I know who have actually succeeded:
Lulumia: used 100 MES scrolls first failed all of them used 650 common scrolls and Masterworked her regent staff.
My slayer: 5 scrolls rerolling a level 27 sword masterworked
Klau: 450 scrolls to masterwork chest
Sepheria: 850 scrolls to masterwork a chest
Jyu: 1350 scrolls to masterwork regent tip
Update: I wanted to share a screenshot of a conjunct chest I masterworked with common scrolls I left it running with 400 scrolls and it masterworked with 100 of them. People keep wondering as well if an item that's masterworked can revert to being unmasterworked the answer to that is no. Once an item is masterworked with common scrolls it completely stops rolling because a masterworked item requires master enigmatic scrolls to reroll it. Common scrolls are unusable on a masterworked item.
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which1 scroll u r using to identification to become masterworked. common or intricate, coz I think identification scroll only effect on status wepon /armor it self. and dont effect become masterwork am I right ?
ReplyDeleteYou use common enigmatic and common to identify both will masterwork an item. Usually intricate are used with the MES scrolls but in this case you use the two common types of scrolls and it will masterwork so it will only cost about 550g per 100 scrolls.
Deleteive tried about 2000 times, this works in NA servers right?
ReplyDeleteIt works on NA servers I recently Masterworked some conjunct gloves it took me 3,000 RNG luck will still differ person to person but I'm used to wasting between 40 to 60 MES per conjunct peice so 3,000 scrolls but 3,000 scrolls is equivlant to around 15,000 gold or so if it took 40 MES would be 22k which is a decent savings but its still RNG your just giving yourself more attempts to succeed some people i know normally fail with over 200 MES and yet when they use commons they average about 800 - 4000 per masterwork since everyones RNG is different and this is because of the way RNG is calculated its hard to say what the exact number is for each person. But the best way to figure out would be try at different times or think about the last time you mw'ed an item and around what time that was with the character and try around the same time. Since time is usually the most standard calculation for RNG luck that's actually what i've been in the process of figuring out most of my mw attempts happen near the same time period but I haven't gotten it down to where i can easily do it in like 100 scrolls i just have the confidence that I know if i do it around that time it will eventually mw.
Deletei have yet to fail more than 30 times with mes and on our server mes is about 350-400g per (though i never buy them i farm dungeons). so either i am highly lucky or you know some very unlucky people.
DeleteIt's good to try it around the same time that you normally masterwork maybe like an hour before up to an hour past so like for example my window seems to be around 3:40 for my slayer so I get enough scrolls to go from 2:00 to 4:30 or so but I had one of my guild members just masterwork one of his weapons in around 300. RNG is just tricky and makes you think that its random but every computer program uses some kind of formula.
DeleteI tried using Axife Mouse Recorder, but it won't work in tera. When I start recording it does not seem to work if I'm in Tera. It will only work if I click out of the game. How did you get it to work?
ReplyDeleteI usually play in full screen mode which works fine though it does cause a slight delay since the recorder doesn't have a hot key to the record button so in the rotation i usually end up with the action of clicking on tera and waiting for it to load before i click the items and do the scroll usage. Some of my guildies play in window mode and they say it works but I haven't used window mode myself. Just make sure when you use it you start recording using the record button then do the process and hit stop before playing it to do the scrolls. I also use the simple version not the expert when using it since I'm too lazy to figure out the expert mode. You also don't have to use that mouse recorder if you find it too much work cause there's a lot of other programs that allow you to macro like auto-it ect I just gave it as an example :)
DeleteThanks, I got it to work now. I had to start it in the deluxe mode. It seems to be working fine now other than when the server lags. Thanks for your helpful posts.
DeleteYeah it's usually good to not try to run it too fast and leave a good few seconds to compensate for any server lag but I usually have mine do about 300 scrolls in about 30 minutes or so and it doesn't lag or get stuck you could also do it in a more empty area so that other people don't lag you :)
DeleteAxife has hotkeys to record and replay, check the options.
DeleteAlso, you need to run Axife as Administrator if you run Tera as Administrator. Otherwise Axife cannot intercept any clicks inside Tera.
When you record the macro, click a little bit slower than you could. That way the replay doesn't miss a click when there is a tiny lag.
I didn't masterwork anything yet. So far I failed with 70 MES and 1300 CES on Abyss chest.
do you use like thousands of scrolls all at once or in seperate intervals?
ReplyDeleteBecause I usually do other things with my guild i usually dont do more then 500 at once but thats mostly depending on whether im busy or not.
Delete"And you can leave it running during the day or night while your away from keyboard."
ReplyDeleteWhat happens if something masterworks while i'm afk?
You'll come back to your pc with a masterworked item I just did a conjunct chest with 100 common scrolls gonna put a picture up.
DeleteSo it won't break the MW?
DeleteNope it will not break the masterwork once its masterworked it stays that way :)
DeleteHow do you make it work with more than 100 scrolls since you can only stack 100?
ReplyDeleteJust fill your invetory up with multible stacks of 100 so usually i'll buy 4 stacks of 100 of common enigmatic scrolls and 4 stacks of 100 common identification scrolls that is 400 total attempts :)
DeleteHow do I make this macro? I am new to this
ReplyDeleteI made a guide which explains macroing.
Deletehttp://tera-online-guides.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-use-macro-to-masterwork-using.html
I just used 120 MES to try and masterwork a single item (Scribe's Fingers) and failed all my attempts.....this is ridiculous I think I'll try your method next
ReplyDeleteThat really sucks especially just on the scribes fingers
DeleteLast night, I tried using Axife with 1k CES, to no avail.
ReplyDeletesometimes it can take more then 1k my latest item took about 3k of them but im used to wasting over 100 scrolls + for a masterwork and even at the lower price they are now in our server still worked out being cheaper not to mention not having to farm dungeons over and over.
Deletehi, i dontwhat im doing wrong but i cant get it to work. as sonn as i click on the tera screen it doesnt do anything, ive tried clickin with the mouse , with the keyboard and still nothing but with other programs does work. so ill hope u have an answer plz and thanks
ReplyDeleteTry setting it as administrator or checking to make sure antivirus isn't blocking it from working.
Deletehs it really works looks like magic. haha thanks. too bad my luck still sucks
ReplyDeletemw'ed my research and inquiry twinsword using this method after 200 ces.. i was like @-@ oh my god... thanks! :)
ReplyDeletei use 28 ces for my conjuct armor and it work
ReplyDeletei use 28 ces for my conjuct armor, but i heard if there is someone who use 16ces, and it masterwork now
ReplyDeleteIt work! I masterwork the abyss' bow with only 39 common enigmatic scrolls! I'm in an EU server.
ReplyDeletestill no MW on my twin swords research & Inquiry. burned like 5-6 MES and 700-800 common scrolls, still no luck =/
ReplyDeletestill no MW on my staff Fatebender +6. i have spend 1000 CES !!!!
DeleteUsually you don't wanna + an item before you try and masterwork it because it actually decreases your chances at success slightly.
DeleteWhat if I mw an item such as scribes fingers and then go to craft up fusion fingers? Will the crafted item be mw? -Tyler
ReplyDeleteNope sorry to say Tyler that once you use an item to craft the updated version it will destroy the orignal masterworked item. Masterworking currently cannot be rolled over to the next item at least not as far as I know so far. Whether this gets changed in the future or not I'm not sure.
DeleteWH gloves 700 common scrolls to MW
ReplyDeleteWH boots 2500 to MW
WH chest 6000 scrolls still no success in MWing :(
HOW?
Try around the same estimated time you masterworked the last two and see if that helps the games RNG can be retarded too.
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